I overthought this challenge for way too long at the very start, but it had a very smooth output once the reaction was underway.
I was very cranky with this challenge (I imagine this must be how the musicians felt in Listener) but then I found the ending extremely satisfying. One of my favourites in this series! Thanks @Vorticity
ok.. after much battling with time, work, and brain farts... overcomplicating some parts... and assistance from some others to push me back on the right track..
I will say this has been one of the most fun solves in a long while.
sneaky bastards with the last few steps.. eesh. but thanks for making this. it was great.
In case anybody hasn't noticed, but the last 4 challenges (9-12) haven't used the "known list of Ingress keywords". I can only imagine what the final challenge will bring...
If you mean the "one red herring" part, you're completely off. That message is simply pointing out that the most obvious cipher is not the correct one. The case difference is really there so it would be easier to notice a particular pattern later on in the puzzle, it's not meaningful on its own. You'll need the full decode for A before working on B, and you'll know when you have it.
The catalyst is so obscure it does not have a product name, and certainly no vendor comes up.
The cipher will not accept as a key something like what a chemist would call it in English or PTSLAHOFURWMINYEZBCDGJKQVX or any thing with numbers like so42al2o3zro2 (what chemists would write) or so42zro2al2o3 (what C writes), witch would be the simplest immediately obvious ways to use C as a key. Try searching for it and certainly no wiki exists for it.
Please somebody, explain to a (small) child how to figure out C. I so want to get started on this weeks challenge.
Perhaps. I found it simply being there helpful at figuring out what to do with B. Perhaps the author planned that, perhaps not. I do think they had a good reason for doing that. :)
I have completed every single one of them... Granted last week with help on every step after grayscale. Hints say use a never used before cipher. Now I am truly baffled. This weeks challenge seems so awesome, I am like an eager puppy running around a fence trying to find the way in.
I have completed them all too and still confused on how to implement C. I feel like I’m missing something super obvious and I have tried so many ciphers still can’t get anything. My previous progress apparently was the wrong way for A.
Solved it! yes! collecting previous clues in this thread into one.. as they helped me through the slog...
C: yes, you need to use it for A. but as Billy Joel once sang, "I love you just the way you are".
A: You've seen this decoding before. there's only one that I think would make sense if all you have is C to start you out. and you should immediately see a little bit of something that is readable. Find the relevant wiki, and follow a long. fold/add whats readable back in.
B: use the new stuff you got from A with a beautiful variant of tool you used in A. Group IA should make sense. 8 letters. 5 symbols. Order naturally. Change to numbers. Use greek megalopolis author of The Histories for help. greeks didn't like Js. Remove C.
Finally, you'll have a clue to the keyword... and for the first time, we have gone multimedia. dont think about the collection, just the item. timing is everything. phrase not word. and it should make sense, given the theme.
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Really poetic ending to this one!
I overthought this challenge for way too long at the very start, but it had a very smooth output once the reaction was underway.
I was very cranky with this challenge (I imagine this must be how the musicians felt in Listener) but then I found the ending extremely satisfying. One of my favourites in this series! Thanks @Vorticity
ok.. after much battling with time, work, and brain farts... overcomplicating some parts... and assistance from some others to push me back on the right track..
I will say this has been one of the most fun solves in a long while.
sneaky bastards with the last few steps.. eesh. but thanks for making this. it was great.
Im stuck. Is there some sort of order for the 5 elements in 200 before convert it to 100?
Yes, like the previous challenges
In case anybody hasn't noticed, but the last 4 challenges (9-12) haven't used the "known list of Ingress keywords". I can only imagine what the final challenge will bring...
ONE RED HERRING has me so confused I am trying to figure out how not to get it.
Which one?
The one when trying to decode A.
That's just a hint but not really mandatory for solving.
Is it at least the right direction or am I completely off?
You are on the right track. You should be able to tackle B already. Good luck!
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Oh my.. this challenge is really creative. Thanks @RushdieRR
If you mean the "one red herring" part, you're completely off. That message is simply pointing out that the most obvious cipher is not the correct one. The case difference is really there so it would be easier to notice a particular pattern later on in the puzzle, it's not meaningful on its own. You'll need the full decode for A before working on B, and you'll know when you have it.
Congratulations 🎉 😁✌️
Case is completely a red herring, isn't it? It makes sense neither in the output of A nor that of B.
Won't be able to redeem this if not for all the hints, especially someone who spoon-fed me all the hints, 😁
The catalyst is so obscure it does not have a product name, and certainly no vendor comes up.
The cipher will not accept as a key something like what a chemist would call it in English or PTSLAHOFURWMINYEZBCDGJKQVX or any thing with numbers like so42al2o3zro2 (what chemists would write) or so42zro2al2o3 (what C writes), witch would be the simplest immediately obvious ways to use C as a key. Try searching for it and certainly no wiki exists for it.
Please somebody, explain to a (small) child how to figure out C. I so want to get started on this weeks challenge.
why don't you C if you can just use it as <resistance-symbol>
There's nothing to figure out about C except how to use it.
Yes, this is my question, how (and witch iteration?). I am showing that I for sure have put in some work at figuring this out.
Perhaps. I found it simply being there helpful at figuring out what to do with B. Perhaps the author planned that, perhaps not. I do think they had a good reason for doing that. :)
I am sooo looking forward to this making sense to me :)
Retranscription of the substance is not needed. If you've done the previous challenges, you already know how to start applying it.
I have completed every single one of them... Granted last week with help on every step after grayscale. Hints say use a never used before cipher. Now I am truly baffled. This weeks challenge seems so awesome, I am like an eager puppy running around a fence trying to find the way in.
Wrote you on TG. Perhaps having a quick chat works better. :)
Don't trust hints. Sometimes they are wrong. Sometimes you misunderstand the context.
I have completed them all too and still confused on how to implement C. I feel like I’m missing something super obvious and I have tried so many ciphers still can’t get anything. My previous progress apparently was the wrong way for A.
I'll be going to sleep soon but if you find me on TG, I'll try to guide you through the first rough waters either now or in 12 hours' time or so.
Solved it! yes! collecting previous clues in this thread into one.. as they helped me through the slog...
C: yes, you need to use it for A. but as Billy Joel once sang, "I love you just the way you are".
A: You've seen this decoding before. there's only one that I think would make sense if all you have is C to start you out. and you should immediately see a little bit of something that is readable. Find the relevant wiki, and follow a long. fold/add whats readable back in.
B: use the new stuff you got from A with a beautiful variant of tool you used in A. Group IA should make sense. 8 letters. 5 symbols. Order naturally. Change to numbers. Use greek megalopolis author of The Histories for help. greeks didn't like Js. Remove C.
Finally, you'll have a clue to the keyword... and for the first time, we have gone multimedia. dont think about the collection, just the item. timing is everything. phrase not word. and it should make sense, given the theme.