2024 niantic still sucks / Let spoofers
taxikiller
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Year 2024 . Niantic still without Fix spoofers cheats. With a game climbing down directly to decadence they do nothing about that. Their support sucks , their people sucks . But they receive my subscription Money. **** support . During years AND years the same **** problem.
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Yup still a problem. Never going away. It's why so many people quit, cheaters have ruined the game. There's other options out there for gaming that's not impacted by cheaters like in Ingress. Besides, it's just a free game from the app store. If it's broken why play?
Niantic's heuristics aren't very good at detecting cheating.
Ingress is the only game to use VPS, enabling MFLA and stamping out spoofing.
But this hasn't happened yet, despite an event a few months ago which would have provided immense amount of data analyse and actually force MFLA into the game when potential spoofing is detected.
Yep
No it isn't. We're catching regularly, folks going from Full with shields to white in less time than it takes to register a hit. That's Barley Soup in every form of Ingress I'm familiar with.
Thank you for agreeing to my statement.
And that Niantic needs to make MFLA a priority across all products.
Double down on your ignorance, thanks for proving being wrong as usual.
No, you agreed with my statement
Niantic's heuristics aren't very good at detecting cheating.
Ingress is the only game to use VPS, enabling MFLA and stamping out spoofing is the only option.
But this hasn't happened yet, despite an event a few months ago which would have provided immense amount of data analyse and actually force MFLA into the game when potential spoofing is detected
Unless you are saying that you want spoofing and cheating to be rampant?
No it isn't. We're catching regularly, folks going from Full with shields to white in less time than it takes to register a hit. That's Barley Soup in every form of Ingress I'm familiar with.
I don't understand your logic, you agreed with my statement here, but then flipped and said no.
How do You think about MFA to be enabled? Scans which currently are disabled for more than a half agents? It will just cut out players,cheaters will happily scan feet/beer/etc. It's a loong road to the time when full AR models of each PoI will be ready,and making scan work for less devices won't make that road shorter.
Overclocking? Yes,it works on more of Ingress-capable phones but how overclock can help at all? EG i tried overclocking two times and even couldn't do successful hack of L6 portal xD
And afaik ingress team have no access to scanned data.
In my opinion nia algorithm should at bare minimum start reacting to "too fast movement between poi,from center to center",or drop CAL to zero if such movement was detected with closed scanner,at least for some time to see if that account is moving like human or like spacecraft. Last spoofer i've faced was active 3 hours,just smashing and smashing.
By MFLA, you mean scans and localization? It is still not quite working, look 😎 (and the portal scans are good, only the environment is causing problems):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRLhagyWV58
It was acceptable as an event, but if MFLA was enabled and did not let me destroy the portal, I'd be mad.
@holdthebeer
@DSktr
Ingress has Overclock as it's MFLA. Which is pretty effective.
I do realise that there are a few players with under spec'd devices that cannot do Overclock. This is both a technical limitation of the VPS feature due to the ARDK version ingress uses, and players not willing to upgrade their devices.
Have already proven many times before that a capable device doesn't mean selling a kidney. Many people, in fact most people do not realise the older mobiles on the market, that are 2-3 years old are an option if on a tight budget.
@holdthebeer the video you posted, is a great video, shows one of 2 things is happening
Either there wasn't enough low light scans done or quality scans.
Or there isn't enough light for your device to Localise with. Although I have personally done Overclock on even lower light levels.
Carrying a torch is a good idea, both for personal safety and to help localise yourself to the wayspot. Though, I do wish that the Ingress team had the option to turn on the device's flash (used as a torch in android and ios) to assist with low light situations
Uploaded scans is a 2FLA, and while the Ingress team do have access to the database, they don't have the resources to check every potential spoofer.
There are also automated systems in place to check for bad scans, feet for example.
@holdthebeer
It was acceptable as an event, but if MFLA was enabled and did not let me destroy the portal, I'd be mad.
If you aren't spoofing or cheating then it won't be an issue.
Only an issue to those that do, and they are the ones we need to stop cheating!
because Niantic has been so great at marking people as cheaters, right? No false positives, right?
You really are pathetic at this.
I really don't know how Niantic work: you report a spoofer who doesn't even respect cooldowns between his actions and nothing is done; he continues to play and spoof!
You report an ingress player who is harassing players of the other faction on the chat and move and remove legit portals just to spite some players because he knows Niantic will follows his false reasons to remove them and do nothing when he is reported and it proves true; all that was done by Niantic is removing his messages from the chat but he continues to play like nothing ever happened!
But in the meantime some players who do nothing wrong are wrongly flagged and got a warning...
Is it still worth our time to bother reporting when Niantic does not seem to care the lest?
I come to think that from their point of view the more people playing is the more people susceptible of paying so it is in their interest to let cheaters continue to play and maybe pay...