I'm curious as to the timing of this announcement in relation to the Optima Kinetic challenge. This was announced exactly two weeks after the challenge ended. Was there any discussion within Niantic, perhaps many months ago, to have Adventure Sync ready in time for the challenge? Or was it intentional to have the challenge under the old system? Perhaps to highlight how flawed it was to build community support for Adventure Sync? I'm baffled as to why the challenge was held at the time it was if this was imminently on your to-do list. A different stat could have been chosen for Optima while holding off on a walking challenge until perhaps Lucida. Challenges promote different types of gameplay. It seems odd to me that Niantic used the challenge to promote what will be for most agents an outgoing method of tracking instead of waiting to use the challenge to promote a new feature.
The other part of the game that will be impacted by adventure sync, is...
Quantum Capsules.
As the duping of items is based on distance walked. Not just the Kinetic Capsule.
Means key farming for an epic link star op will be a little easier.
Or duping a hard to dupe strategic portal key. All good things.
But we are still missing story, and global events.
By global events, I'm referring to things like the shard game of old, reimagined with the Drone, such that global events can resume under current global covid-19 restrictions, if there are any where you are.
Is there any countermeasure against manipulating fitness walking distance?
Pokemon Go, another game of Niantic, has launched the same feature that allows to get XL candy when walking without prohibiting it, leading to the collapse of the battle league ecosystem. The championship will be held soon, right? Most of the players are cheating like this. Like doping. It's easy to know this just by looking at the trainer's profile. I can't believe there are so many people who have already circled the earth many times just by walking! Isn't that amazing?
If it is released without countermeasures, the Trekker medal, which has been difficult to obtain, will be received as Onyx in less than a month from many agents to their dogs, and the kinetic capsule will destroy the game ecosystem. Do you really want the game to be ruined? I look forward to hearing from you.
I've never played Pokémon Go. My Niantic profile is exactly the same as my Trekker. I have no opinion about Adventure Sync or know how it will affect my stats. But they are my stats, matter only to me. I enjoy playing Ingress, when I no longer enjoy it, I will stop playing. People will always try to game the system. If it has an effect on me I will adjust accordingly. If I can't and stop enjoying it, I will stop doing it.
Since they were introduced, it has been based on walking distance.
I cannot state how you got items duping sitting at home, unless you were moving around at home. Or maybe you had great drift without knowing, which counted as distance walked.
Quantum Capsule dupes are not related to any in-game activity expect for time. Each 24 hours common and rare items in a Quantum has a x% probability of duplicating. Quantum Caps are the renamed MUFG capsules and have had exactly the same behaviour except not duping very rare items.
I'm another one not a fan of Adventure Sync. To me, the distance "walked" in Ingress has always been to do with in-game play. I prefer to think of it as "action distance". Also, it is distance *walked*, not cycled, on the bus, or in a car. I bikegress for much of my Ingress and I accept this, yet I have still racked up a decent distance walked.
Please can Adventure Sync distance *not* be added to the existing distance walked and Trekker stats? It is already easy enough to get Trekker in one year of play, and I'd like to be able to compare my in-game distance. I understand that Adventure Sync will be optional, but if it contributes to the same statistics how would I compare? The distance walked will become a meaningless comparison, all competition is gone.
I'm not against Adventure Sync for new statistics or features, or even the existing Kinetic Capsule where I think it kind of makes sense.
Just adding: my favourite bits about Ingress are: socialising, team play, and competition. I'd rather it not become just another personal acheivement / item collecting game.
Rename "distance walked" to "action distance" (or maybe something related to the influence it has on XM, to fit with the back story). Keep this statistic related only to in-game actions.
Add a new "distance walked" statistic that more accurately reflects distance walked, and can be augmented with Adventure Sync.
Keep Trekker related to "action distance", but add a new badge, for example "Adventurer" (not sure on this, might be too close to Explorer) that reflects the new, more accurate "distance walked" that can be augmented with Adventure Sync.
Sadly the game has evolved more to a solo playing game due to corona and how things around the world looks.. will be hard get back to the good old days i think.
Yo si pienso activarlo, ya que en la zona donde vivo y algunas zonas mas de España y otros países que son muy lluviosas, ya me direis como se puede ir con paraguas y con el móvil, o con capucha y móvil a la vez, si no quereis que se moje no se puede llevar abierto, de esta manera se camina y si da la oportunidad de que te cuenten los pasos y de esa manera no perderlos, por no poder llevar el juego abierto.
I live in Manchester, UK. We don't actually get that much rainfall, but that it's almost constant drizzle. I don't see why Adventure Sync would be a plus on existing stats.
Me : "I've already achieved onyx trekker" so...........
Ingress : "crickets"......
Me: "kinetic capsules are **** thrown against the wall and somehow stuck, fire whoever said yes to the " capsules" during an Ingress brain storming meeting that day.
So just don’t turn on Adventure Sync or use Kinetic capsules? 🤷
Not sure I understand the issue. Lots of players seem to like the KCaps but do mention they don’t log distance well. Adventure Sync will sort that and it has been a requested feature as it’s on all the other Niantic games (the one it’s not on, closes down next month anyways).
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Someone else pointed out to me a tweet from @NianticThia
So it seems it may be retroactive. Which I welcome but it’ll make the “Wah, my Trekker badge being devalued” folks annoyed I guess.
Cool features but Just don't let defitters to abuse the system.
Anyways, that’s Adventure Sync in from the other Niantic games. When do we move on to adding Friends & sending Gifts @NianticBrian ?
I’ll just check this comment again in a few hours when it has 50 Disagrees.
EDIT: Oh, only 1 Disagree? Quick Brian & Thia, add in Gifts before other Agents notice.
Tell me, with ADVENTURE SYNC game will consume less battery?
You won’t need the game open to track your distance so…yes?
Does closed-beta count as a feature shipped? I wanna play with the new toys too.
I'm curious as to the timing of this announcement in relation to the Optima Kinetic challenge. This was announced exactly two weeks after the challenge ended. Was there any discussion within Niantic, perhaps many months ago, to have Adventure Sync ready in time for the challenge? Or was it intentional to have the challenge under the old system? Perhaps to highlight how flawed it was to build community support for Adventure Sync? I'm baffled as to why the challenge was held at the time it was if this was imminently on your to-do list. A different stat could have been chosen for Optima while holding off on a walking challenge until perhaps Lucida. Challenges promote different types of gameplay. It seems odd to me that Niantic used the challenge to promote what will be for most agents an outgoing method of tracking instead of waiting to use the challenge to promote a new feature.
The other part of the game that will be impacted by adventure sync, is...
Quantum Capsules.
As the duping of items is based on distance walked. Not just the Kinetic Capsule.
Means key farming for an epic link star op will be a little easier.
Or duping a hard to dupe strategic portal key. All good things.
But we are still missing story, and global events.
By global events, I'm referring to things like the shard game of old, reimagined with the Drone, such that global events can resume under current global covid-19 restrictions, if there are any where you are.
It all basically reminds me of Google Streetview.... almost seems like re-inventing the wheel...
The addition of the adventure sync function is welcome, but at the same time, there are very concerns.
@NianticBrian
Is there any countermeasure against manipulating fitness walking distance?
Pokemon Go, another game of Niantic, has launched the same feature that allows to get XL candy when walking without prohibiting it, leading to the collapse of the battle league ecosystem. The championship will be held soon, right? Most of the players are cheating like this. Like doping. It's easy to know this just by looking at the trainer's profile. I can't believe there are so many people who have already circled the earth many times just by walking! Isn't that amazing?
If it is released without countermeasures, the Trekker medal, which has been difficult to obtain, will be received as Onyx in less than a month from many agents to their dogs, and the kinetic capsule will destroy the game ecosystem. Do you really want the game to be ruined? I look forward to hearing from you.
I've never played Pokémon Go. My Niantic profile is exactly the same as my Trekker. I have no opinion about Adventure Sync or know how it will affect my stats. But they are my stats, matter only to me. I enjoy playing Ingress, when I no longer enjoy it, I will stop playing. People will always try to game the system. If it has an effect on me I will adjust accordingly. If I can't and stop enjoying it, I will stop doing it.
I hope the latency issue wil be resolved soon. We've been experiencing terrible performance for far too long now.
The next event will be no different if there are no changes made to the backend. The lack of communication is infuriating.
As the duping of items is based on distance walked.
Since when is that? I remember sitting at home months and having keys and stuff duplicated no difference from active playing.
Since they were introduced, it has been based on walking distance.
I cannot state how you got items duping sitting at home, unless you were moving around at home. Or maybe you had great drift without knowing, which counted as distance walked.
Quantum Capsule dupes are not related to any in-game activity expect for time. Each 24 hours common and rare items in a Quantum has a x% probability of duplicating. Quantum Caps are the renamed MUFG capsules and have had exactly the same behaviour except not duping very rare items.
Here is the official Ingress Help article https://niantic.helpshift.com/a/ingress/?s=advanced-gameplay&f=quantum-capsules&p=web
here is a user driven wiki article https://ingress.fandom.com/wiki/Capsule
I'm another one not a fan of Adventure Sync. To me, the distance "walked" in Ingress has always been to do with in-game play. I prefer to think of it as "action distance". Also, it is distance *walked*, not cycled, on the bus, or in a car. I bikegress for much of my Ingress and I accept this, yet I have still racked up a decent distance walked.
Please can Adventure Sync distance *not* be added to the existing distance walked and Trekker stats? It is already easy enough to get Trekker in one year of play, and I'd like to be able to compare my in-game distance. I understand that Adventure Sync will be optional, but if it contributes to the same statistics how would I compare? The distance walked will become a meaningless comparison, all competition is gone.
I'm not against Adventure Sync for new statistics or features, or even the existing Kinetic Capsule where I think it kind of makes sense.
Just adding: my favourite bits about Ingress are: socialising, team play, and competition. I'd rather it not become just another personal acheivement / item collecting game.
Possible solution:
Rename "distance walked" to "action distance" (or maybe something related to the influence it has on XM, to fit with the back story). Keep this statistic related only to in-game actions.
Add a new "distance walked" statistic that more accurately reflects distance walked, and can be augmented with Adventure Sync.
Keep Trekker related to "action distance", but add a new badge, for example "Adventurer" (not sure on this, might be too close to Explorer) that reflects the new, more accurate "distance walked" that can be augmented with Adventure Sync.
I stand corrected.
Cheers
Sadly the game has evolved more to a solo playing game due to corona and how things around the world looks.. will be hard get back to the good old days i think.
Please NO Adventure Sync
…OR at least differentiate distance with scanner open for trekker vs not open for kinetic capsules
Podrían usar el aventure sync solo para usarse con la kc diferenciando de la Trekker
Bravo and Kudos! Hard work!
@GPC2C keep rolling out the features, like a boss! 🍻🤳
Yo si pienso activarlo, ya que en la zona donde vivo y algunas zonas mas de España y otros países que son muy lluviosas, ya me direis como se puede ir con paraguas y con el móvil, o con capucha y móvil a la vez, si no quereis que se moje no se puede llevar abierto, de esta manera se camina y si da la oportunidad de que te cuenten los pasos y de esa manera no perderlos, por no poder llevar el juego abierto.
Très bien pour le calcul des km réellement parcourus et l'économie de batterie merci
I live in Manchester, UK. We don't actually get that much rainfall, but that it's almost constant drizzle. I don't see why Adventure Sync would be a plus on existing stats.
Me : "I've already achieved onyx trekker" so...........
Ingress : "crickets"......
Me: "kinetic capsules are **** thrown against the wall and somehow stuck, fire whoever said yes to the " capsules" during an Ingress brain storming meeting that day.
Ingress: "crickets"....
My comment magically disappeared from the feed..... it wasn't offensive or abusive in any way.... it was a negative comment about this "news"...
That's all..... and ingress deleted it. Bad form ingress.
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KInetic capsules are cool.
So just don’t turn on Adventure Sync or use Kinetic capsules? 🤷
Not sure I understand the issue. Lots of players seem to like the KCaps but do mention they don’t log distance well. Adventure Sync will sort that and it has been a requested feature as it’s on all the other Niantic games (the one it’s not on, closes down next month anyways).